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1997 Chevy Venture code P0441
« on: July 12, 2005, 09:58:37 AM »
I keep getting code p0441 emissions default how do I repair. Also have Poping noise passenger side front end.

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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2005, 05:29:08 PM »
heres a chart that may help,most of the time its a bad vacuum switch.located above the rear valve cover behin   Document ID# 51140
1997 Chevrolet Venture      


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DTC P0441 Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System No Flow During Purge

 


Circuit Description
The EVAP purge solenoid valve allows manifold vacuum to purge the canister. The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) supplies a ground to energize the EVAP purge solenoid valve (purge on ). The EVAP purge solenoid control is Pulse Width Modulated (PWM) or turned on and off several times a second. The duty cycle (pulse width) is determined by engine operating conditions including load, throttle position, coolant temperature and ambient temperature. The duty cycle is calculated by the PCM and the output is commanded when the appropriate conditions have been met:

Engine coolant temperature above 25C (77F).
After the engine has been running about 2 1/2 minutes on a cold start or 30 seconds on a warm start.
The vehicle is operating in closed loop fuel control.
Canister purge commanded duty cycle varies according to operating conditions determined by mass air flow, fuel trim, and. intake air temperature. Canister purge will be disabled if TP angle increases to above 70%. Canister purge will be re-enabled when TP angle decreases below 66%.

The EVAP purge vacuum switch is a normally closed switch positioned in the purge line between the canister and the EVAP purge solenoid. The EVAP purge vacuum switch will open when vacuum increases to greater than 5 inches of water in the purge line. The PCM monitors the EVAP purge vacuum switch signal to determine of the evaporative emission control system is working properly. If the switch is closed (no purge flow) when the PCM is commanding the EVAP purge solenoid ON, DTC P0441 will be set.

Conditions for Setting the DTC
No TP sensor, IAT sensor, MAP sensor, ECT sensor, or MAF sensor DTCs set.
BARO reading is greater than 70 kPa.
Engine Coolant Temperature is less than 114C (237F).
Intake Air Temperature (IAT) sensor indicates an ambient temperature between 10C (50F) and 70C (158F).
The difference between ECT and IAT is less than 10C (18F).
Engine speed is between 900 rpm and 5000 rpm.
Throttle angle is between 2.5% and 40%.
Canister purge PWM is greater than 85%.
EVAP vacuum switch remains closed (12 volts signal at the PCM).
Above conditions for longer than 4 seconds.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
The PCM will illuminate the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) during the second consecutive trip in which the diagnostic test has been run and failed.
The PCM will store conditions which were present when the DTC set as Freeze Frame and Failure Records data.
Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC
The PCM will turn OFF the MIL during the third consecutive trip in which the diagnostic has been run and passed.
The History DTC will clear after 40 consecutive warm-up cycles have occurred without a malfunction.
The DTC can be cleared by using the scan tool.
Diagnostic Aids
Check for the following conditions:

Poor connection at PCM. Inspect harness connectors for backed out terminals, improper mating, broken locks, improperly formed or damaged terminals, and poor terminal to wire connection.
Damaged harness. Inspect the wiring harness for damage. If the harness appears to be OK, observe the EVAP vacuum switch display on the scan tool while moving connectors and wiring harnesses related to the sensor. A change in the display will indicate the location of the fault.
Faulty or damaged canister. A faulty canister may intermittently allow charcoal into the EVAP purge solenoid, EVAP vacuum switch, and associated lines, causing a DTC to be set.
Reviewing the Fail Records vehicle mileage since the diagnostic test last failed may help determine how often the condition that caused the DTC to be set occurs. This may assist in diagnosing the condition.

Test Description
Number(s) below refer to the step number(s) on the Diagnostic Table.

This vehicle is equipped with a PCM which utilizes an Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory (EEPROM). When the PCM is being replaced, the new PCM must be programmed. Refer to PCM Replacement/Programming .



DTC P0441 - EVAP System No Flow During Purge  Step
 Action
 Value(s)
 Yes
 No
 
1
 Was the Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check performed?
 --
 Go to Step 2
 Go to the Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check
 
2
 With the engine idling, observe EVAP Vacuum Sw. on the scan tool data list.
Command the EVAP purge solenoid on with the scan tool.
Does the EVAP Vacuum Sw. display Purge with the EVAP purge solenoid commanded on?
 --
 Go to Step 3
 Go to Step 4
 
3
 Review and record scan tool Fail Records data.
Operate the vehicle within Fail Records conditions.
Using a scan tool, monitor Specific DTC info for DTC P0441 until the DTC P0441 test runs.
Note test result, does scan tool indicate DTC P0441 failed this ignition?
 --
 Go to Step 4
 Refer to Diagnostic Aids
 
4
 Plug the vacuum line between the EVAP purge canister and the EVAP Vacuum switch.
With the engine idling, observe EVAP Vacuum Sw. on the scan tool.
Command the EVAP purge solenoid on with the scan tool.
Does the scan tool display Purge?
 --
 Go to Step 5
 Go to Step 6
 
5
 Check the vacuum line to canister for damage or improper connections.

Was a problem found?
 --
 Go to Step 20
 Go to Step 14
 
6
 Turn off the ignition switch.
Install the vacuum gauge between the EVAP purge solenoid and the Vacuum Switch.
With the engine idling, command the EVAP purge solenoid on with the scan tool.
Does the gauge indicate vacuum greater than the specified value?
 12 in. Hg
 Go to Step 7
 Go to Step 8
 
7
 Turn off the ignition switch.
Disconnect the EVAP vacuum switch electrical connector.
Turn on the ignition switch.
Observe EVAP Vacuum Sw. on the scan tool.
Does the scan tool display Purge?
 --
 Go to Step 15
 Go to Step 9
 
8
 Turn off the ignition switch.
Install the vacuum gauge in the source line to the EVAP purge solenoid.
Engine idling, observe the vacuum gauge.
Does the gauge indicate vacuum greater than the specified value?
 12 in. Hg
 Go to Step 10
 Go to Step 16
 
9
 Turn off the ignition switch.
Disconnect the PCM.
Turn on the ignition switch.
Check for a short to voltage in the EVAP vacuum switch input circuit.
If a problem is found, repair as necessary. Refer to Repair Procedures in Electrical Diagnosis.
Was a problem found?
 --
 Go to Step 20
 Go to Step 19
 
10
 Turn off the ignition switch.
Disconnect EVAP purge solenoid electrical connector.
Connect a test light between the EVAP purge solenoid connector terminals.
Turn on the ignition switch.
Using the scan tool, command the EVAP purge solenoid on.
Is the test light on?
 --
 Go to Step 17
 Go to Step 11
 
11
 Turn off the ignition switch.
Disconnect the PCM.
Connect a test light between the EVAP purge solenoid connector terminals.
Turn on the ignition switch.
Jumper the EVAP purge solenoid driver circuit to ground at the PCM connector.
Is the test light on?
 --
 Go to Step 12
 Go to Step 13
 
12
 Check for a poor connection at the PCM.

Was a problem found?
 --
 Go to Step 20
 Go to Step 19
 
13
 Locate the EVAP purge solenoid wiring problem. Check for the following conditions:
   -  EVAP purge solenoid ignition feed circuit open or shorted to ground.  

   -  EVAP purge solenoid driver circuit open.  

Repair faulty circuit as necessary. Refer to Repair Procedures in Electrical Diagnosis.
Is the action complete?
 --
 Go to Step 20
 --
 
14
 Replace the EVAP canister. Go to Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Canister Replacement .

Is the action complete?
 --
 Go to Step 20
 --
 
15
 Replace the EVAP vacuum switch. Go to Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Vacuum Switch .

Is the action complete?
 --
 Go to Step 20
 --
 
16
 Locate and repair the cause of no vacuum.

Is the action complete?
 --
 Go to Step 20
 --
 
17
 Check for a poor connection at the EVAP purge solenoid.
If a problem is found, repair as necessary. Refer to Repair Procedures in Electrical Diagnosis.
Was a problem found?
 --
 Go to Step 20
 Go to Step 18
 
18
 Replace the EVAP purge solenoid. Refer to Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Canister Purge Solenoid .

Is the action complete?
 --
 Go to Step 20
 --
 
19
 Replace the PCM.

Important: :  The replacement PCM must be programmed. Go to PCM Replacement/Programming .


Is the action complete?
 --
 Go to Step 20
 --
 
20
 Review and record scan tool Fail Records data.
Clear DTCs.
Operate the vehicle within Fail Records conditions as noted.
Using a scan tool, monitor Specific DTC info for DTC P0441 until the DTC P0441 test runs.
Note test result, does the scan tool indicate DTC P0441 failed this ignition?
 --
 Go to Step 2
 System OK
 


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   Document ID# 51140
1997 Chevrolet Venture      
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2005, 07:02:14 PM »
WHEW!!!  p.hinds, my head is swimming now.  Hope there is not a test on it. Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2005, 07:16:17 PM »
a good way to test the switch without a scan tool would be to apply ground to the purpls wire and feel the switch for a click.also test the other wire (pink?) for voltage
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